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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby shovelhed » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:19 pm

I've searched and can't find an answer. What if I am sending a boardset to the US to be repaired. How do I arrange to not pay tax (maybe duty) on its return form the US?

I've done this in the past and been charged. Pissed me off because it had already been purchased and paid for.

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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby Subpacket » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:24 pm

tl:dr The cost of repair is still taxable. Goods made in the US are Duty free, so you will only pay HST on the value of the repair.


The board has a value - $500 say. Its broken. So you send it to the US to get fixed. They fix it for $100. That board is now worth $600. (the amount of money you have in to it, putting shipping aside).

When it comes back into Canada - you are right, you already paid your fair share of taxes and crap on the board.. when it was $500. Now that its $100 more, you have to pay on that $100 - $13 in Ontario, $5 in alberta.. $15 on the east coast, etc.

So, in a nut shell. When whereever it gets repaired is finished, make sure that they send back an invoice that states how much the repair value is.
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Postby mike boss » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:05 pm

To bump this up,

I thought somewhere I read that shipping via USPS is the best option ?
That somewhere in the price paid is a flat $5 brokerage fee, and that items from the states would not arrive with any additional fees ?

I'm unsure if this is factual, I know ordering items from Ebay and US residents that shipped via USPS I never got charged any extra fees.
I'm unsure if that would remain true ordering from a retailer.
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby jasonec » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:31 pm

Subpacket would know more, but from my experience, I find that USPS packages often don't get dinged for duty, even if the value is over the $20 limit. But UPS (and the other big shippers) will charge you whatever the hell they can.

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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby lastlight » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:33 pm

Subpacket wrote:Goods made in the US are Duty free


I had some sideart sent from a US vendor and I was nailed with $50 in duty by UPS. Any idea why?

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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby jasonec » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:54 pm

lastlight wrote:
Subpacket wrote:Goods made in the US are Duty free


I had some sideart sent from a US vendor and I was nailed with $50 in duty by UPS. Any idea why?


It's UPS probably. Even the secretaries in our company that receive packages from the US with textbooks (duty free) are bullied all the time by the UPS delivery guys to pay some huge fee. They basically tell the guy "We're not allowed to pay you anything no matter what you say" and they end up dropping off the package and leaving because they know the shitstorm that would result if we had to escalate it. But they try. That's UPS.
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby lastlight » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:37 pm

You mean I could stand there and tell him no... and expect to still get the package?

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Postby jasonec » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:15 pm

lastlight wrote:You mean I could stand there and tell him no... and expect to still get the package?


If you were a company, yes. But as an individual, UPS knows they have you by the balls.....
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby Subpacket » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:15 pm

mike boss wrote:To bump this up,

I thought somewhere I read that shipping via USPS is the best option ?
That somewhere in the price paid is a flat $5 brokerage fee, and that items from the states would not arrive with any additional fees ?

I'm unsure if this is factual, I know ordering items from Ebay and US residents that shipped via USPS I never got charged any extra fees.
I'm unsure if that would remain true ordering from a retailer.


USPS is cheap - it gets handed off to Canada Post, who has a broker that holds the contract that charges $5 for the clearance, and you pay at the post office.
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby Subpacket » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:17 pm

lastlight wrote:
Subpacket wrote:Goods made in the US are Duty free


I had some sideart sent from a US vendor and I was nailed with $50 in duty by UPS. Any idea why?


Do you have a copy of the bill? how much was sthe side art? lets say it was $200
thats $260 CDN

HST = 33.80
Brokerage - $20
HST on brokerage 2.60

so.. no duty, but they charged you their $20 to clear it, and the rest is tax, as you would have paid if you bought in canada.
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby Subpacket » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:19 pm

lastlight wrote:You mean I could stand there and tell him no... and expect to still get the package?


Not really. You can tell them to hold at the depot.
Call UPS, and they will email you a copy of the manifest
Go to your local customs office, pay the HST
fax the stamped release to ups
they will deliver the next day.

Of that - you saved $20.. so.. whats your time worth?
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Re: --> CUSTOMS: Everything You Didn't Want to Know

Postby Subpacket » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:20 pm

jasonec wrote:
lastlight wrote:
Subpacket wrote:Goods made in the US are Duty free


I had some sideart sent from a US vendor and I was nailed with $50 in duty by UPS. Any idea why?


It's UPS probably. Even the secretaries in our company that receive packages from the US with textbooks (duty free) are bullied all the time by the UPS delivery guys to pay some huge fee. They basically tell the guy "We're not allowed to pay you anything no matter what you say" and they end up dropping off the package and leaving because they know the shitstorm that would result if we had to escalate it. But they try. That's UPS.


You can also call UPS with who your broker is, and they will take care of it at the back end. brokers usually cheaper rate than UPS.
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